Hey there! Let’s dive into a fascinating glimpse into the marriage of Rachael Ray and her husband, John M. Cusimano. In the latest episode of her podcast, “I’ll Sleep When I’m Dead,” which aired on Tuesday, November 5, Rachael Ray shared how they balance each other out in a truly unique way. It’s not just about love; it’s about partnership, mutual respect, and finding that perfect rhythm in life.
A Partnership That Works Like a Symphony
Rachael Ray, the dynamic celebrity chef who’s known for her culinary expertise, explained how her relationship with John, a lawyer and musician, forms an unlikely but beautiful harmony. “You know, [John is] a lawyer and a musician,” said Rachael, now 56. She continued, “I’m not a musician. I’m certainly no lawyer. I hate reading legal documents and official stuff, but we balance each other in a weird way. We allow each other to be open to different worlds.”
Speaking to her guest, the legendary chef Jacques Pépin, Rachael emphasized the importance of embracing differences and allowing each other the freedom to explore diverse interests. This balance, she explained, has been the cornerstone of their relationship.
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Truthful Conversations Keep the Flame Alive
Rachael also mentioned how crucial it is to be able to express thoughts truthfully in a relationship. “I also think it’s fun to be able to get out thoughts truthfully,” she explained. This openness, according to Rachael, is what keeps the spark alive between her and John.
Rachael and John have been married since 2005, and throughout the years, John has been a regular feature on her television shows. When asked about his role in her career, Rachael didn’t hesitate to credit her husband for much of her success. “One of the things that I think has been essential to my life and my success over the years is the partner that I chose,” she said. “I love my husband John, and John works with me and has built our business and our brand together.”
A Shared Vision for Service and Community
Rachael went on to describe the shared values that have strengthened their bond. “We agree in concept about service to community, service to the world, service to animals, to children,” she explained. This shared vision, she emphasized, is what makes their partnership so meaningful.
Rachael also shared a personal reflection about her late marriage. “My husband and I didn’t get married until very late in life, 37 and 38 years old,” she said. “But it was very important to me that I marry him because I thought this person could be a true partner in what I believe in and building, not a business, but a community.”
She reiterated how important marrying John was as she prepared to start her business. “I thought this person could be a true partner in what I believe in and helping people and building not a business, but a community,” she elaborated.
Recognizing the Need for Space
In a previous episode of her podcast, Rachael highlighted how she and John recognize when they need some time apart. “I am very wildly, wildly, wildly lucky that I have my husband,” she told guest Billy Crudup during the October 29 episode. “But he understands I need my space. He needs his space.”
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And during the October 22 episode of the show, Rachael admitted that she and John have had their fair share of heated arguments. “It’s very hard, especially for hot-tempered or creative or vociferous loud people to be able to just calm it down,” she explained. “John and I don’t calm it down ever. We have huge screaming matches all the time, but I think that’s healthy. I really do. And I don’t trust people that are too quiet.”
When asked by guest Jenny Mollen who is more likely to apologize first after an argument, Rachael had an interesting take. “I don’t know that we ever apologize to each other,” she responded. “Eventually I pat him on his ass or he kisses me on the head, and that’s just sort of it. That’s the apology. It’s just sort of understood. ‘I still like your ass.’ ‘I still like your head.’ It’s kind of in that zone.”
